From sohkamyung at gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 04:37:27 2010
From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Thu Mar  4 04:38:09 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo: Towards Day One
Message-ID: <3ace93111003032037k7b9e8deem2236f2bc731982dd@mail.gmail.com>

[http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/towards-day-one]

=====
Towards Day One
Submitted by valhalla on 3 March, 2010 - 15:24

Hey there! And welcome to MeeGo project on my behalf too. In this post
written on behalf of the MeeGo Technical Steering Group I will address
some of the top questions on everybody's mind and written all-across
meego.com by now. By doing so, I also will outline the first concrete
steps to get the core of the software work on foot by all of us
together, including various mobile computing companies and individual
members of moblin and maemo communities.
[...]
The most important question is of course about the code. We hope to
move on here very quickly now. Nokia and Intel have set the target to
open the MeeGo repository by the end of this month. I guess this is
something that finally will signify the real "Day One" of MeeGo
project, a genuine merger of moblin and maemo. What is scheduled to be
available then is the first and very raw baseline to a source and
binary repository to build MeeGo trunk on Intel ATOM boards and Nokia
N900.
[...]
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From beng16ng at singnet.com.sg  Thu Mar  4 06:18:06 2010
From: beng16ng at singnet.com.sg (beng16ng@singnet.com.sg)
Date: Thu Mar  4 06:18:50 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] <ADV> Limited time only! Red Hat Training Promotion for
	LUGS members
Message-ID: <1267683486.4b8f509e388d9@discus.singnet.com.sg>

Red Hat is offering a 1-FOR-1 deal for a limited time, where any 2 LUGS members can attend the training for the price of one.  Register with Red Hat by 31st March 2010, and simply state your membership number to enjoy this offer (valid only in Singapore).

The list of courses can be found as follows:

http://www.apac.redhat.com/training/

We are also offering a SGD$100 shopping voucher for any successful referrals to our courses (conditions apply).

Please note:
1.  This promo will supercede the 10% discount currently 
    being offered to the LUGS members during the promotional 
    period including any other discounts/offers
2.  Registration needs to reach Red Hat before end of business day 
    on 31st March 2010.
3.  All courses need to be completed by end of July 2010.
4.  Promotion is available only to existing LUGS members (active membership).
5.  Offer is valid only in Singapore.
  
For registration and any enquiries, please email rhglsadmin_regosASEAN@redhat.com.

HB

From ohadlevy at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 07:41:13 2010
From: ohadlevy at gmail.com (Ohad Levy)
Date: Mon Mar  8 07:41:50 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] where to find a media center case in Singapore
Message-ID: <9ab1d3a91003072341v62a288c2mf1231a5d2c364051@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

Not really related to FOSS, but maybe someone here can help a bit.

I'm looking to buy a media center case somewhere in Singapore, going around
Sim lim didn't show a lot of promise - any suggestions are welcomed.

btw: running mythtv if anyone is wondering :)

Thanks,
Ohad
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From fabrice.marie at fma-rms.com  Tue Mar  9 03:33:57 2010
From: fabrice.marie at fma-rms.com (Fabrice A. Marie)
Date: Tue Mar  9 03:34:47 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] where to find a media center case in Singapore
In-Reply-To: <9ab1d3a91003072341v62a288c2mf1231a5d2c364051@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9ab1d3a91003072341v62a288c2mf1231a5d2c364051@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B95C1A5.1040502@fma-rms.com>


Hello,

On 3/8/10 3:41 PM, Ohad Levy wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Not really related to FOSS, but maybe someone here can help a bit.
> I'm looking to buy a media center case somewhere in Singapore, going
> around Sim lim didn't show a lot of promise - any suggestions are
> welcomed.
> btw: running mythtv if anyone is wondering :)
> Thanks,
> Ohad

Basic media centers are in almost every shops in Sim Lim (last time I
checked, around 3 months ago).
They are very small machines with limited software. In other words they
are great value
for money (few hundred dollars only), but if you need more you'll get
stuck since there is no
upgrade path.

I elected to use a regular machine with a media centre software instead.
For instance I use a Shuttle casing (any small and quiet casing would
do), with a regular
mother board and a graphic card that is capable of doing hardware video
decoding
(to play 1080p videos without monopolizing the CPU).

Software-wise I recommend XMBC (works on Linux, windows and a few other
systems).
MythTV is there too, but I haven't tried since XMBC worked smooth for me
straight away.

And because it's a regular (albeit small form factor) PC, I can do
anything I want under Linux or Windows
without any limitation (work/games/media centre). PCs are cheap to
upgrade if necessary, and software upgrades are standard
Linux/Windows/XMBC/MythTV upgrades.

Hope this helps.

Have a nice day,
Fabrice.
--
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FMA Risk Management Solutions
http://www.fma-rms.com/



From ohadlevy at gmail.com  Tue Mar  9 05:52:48 2010
From: ohadlevy at gmail.com (Ohad Levy)
Date: Tue Mar  9 05:53:24 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] where to find a media center case in Singapore
In-Reply-To: <4B95C1A5.1040502@fma-rms.com>
References: <9ab1d3a91003072341v62a288c2mf1231a5d2c364051@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B95C1A5.1040502@fma-rms.com>
Message-ID: <9ab1d3a91003082152l3794874cue6c15c889e989b79@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Thanks for the reply, maybe I wasn't clear about my requirements...

quiet  - while looking good, many of the cases come with 60mm fans,
which eventually lead to a hig
ir - Infra Red receiver (even better if transmitter is included) - need to
control StarHub box somehow :)
vfd - it should look and feel like an amplifier, including the small lcd
text and buttons to operate it.

all the other stuff (like disks space, motherboard size etc) should be
fairly standard.

I'm happy mythtv + xmbc for many years now, I use mythtv mainly for
recording from SH and recording from remote mythtv (my home country) and
watch it locally on my tv.

another interesting option is boxee

Thanks,
Ohad

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Fabrice A. Marie <fabrice.marie@fma-rms.com
> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> On 3/8/10 3:41 PM, Ohad Levy wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> > Not really related to FOSS, but maybe someone here can help a bit.
> > I'm looking to buy a media center case somewhere in Singapore, going
> > around Sim lim didn't show a lot of promise - any suggestions are
> > welcomed.
> > btw: running mythtv if anyone is wondering :)
> > Thanks,
> > Ohad
>
> Basic media centers are in almost every shops in Sim Lim (last time I
> checked, around 3 months ago).
> They are very small machines with limited software. In other words they
> are great value
> for money (few hundred dollars only), but if you need more you'll get
> stuck since there is no
> upgrade path.
>
> I elected to use a regular machine with a media centre software instead.
> For instance I use a Shuttle casing (any small and quiet casing would
> do), with a regular
> mother board and a graphic card that is capable of doing hardware video
> decoding
> (to play 1080p videos without monopolizing the CPU).
>
> Software-wise I recommend XMBC (works on Linux, windows and a few other
> systems).
> MythTV is there too, but I haven't tried since XMBC worked smooth for me
> straight away.
>
> And because it's a regular (albeit small form factor) PC, I can do
> anything I want under Linux or Windows
> without any limitation (work/games/media centre). PCs are cheap to
> upgrade if necessary, and software upgrades are standard
> Linux/Windows/XMBC/MythTV upgrades.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Have a nice day,
> Fabrice.
> --
> Fabrice A. Marie
> FMA Risk Management Solutions
> http://www.fma-rms.com/
>
>
>
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From anandvaidya.ml at gmail.com  Tue Mar  9 06:04:24 2010
From: anandvaidya.ml at gmail.com (Anand Vaidya)
Date: Tue Mar  9 06:04:59 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] where to find a media center case in Singapore
In-Reply-To: <4B95C1A5.1040502@fma-rms.com>
References: <9ab1d3a91003072341v62a288c2mf1231a5d2c364051@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B95C1A5.1040502@fma-rms.com>
Message-ID: <201003091404.24802.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>

On 09 March 2010 am 11:33:57 Fabrice A. Marie wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 3/8/10 3:41 PM, Ohad Levy wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> > Not really related to FOSS, but maybe someone here can help a bit.
> > I'm looking to buy a media center case somewhere in Singapore, going
> > around Sim lim didn't show a lot of promise - any suggestions are
> > welcomed.
> > btw: running mythtv if anyone is wondering :)
> > Thanks,
> > Ohad
> 

Hi Ohad,

I am thinking of building a Media Center by installing XBMC or some such 
software on a laptop. Laptops nowadays have 300GB+ disks, HDMI, WLAN, DVDROM 
or BDROM drives etc.

You could extend the diskspace by either networking (samba? ) or additional 
USB drives.

A combined wireless KB+Mouse enables your TV to function as a youtube device 
too

A laptop can be hidden easily in a TV cabinet.

There are two problems I need to solve: Linux compatible USB-TV adapter, LIRC 
integration

Any suggestions for Linux compatible USB-TV adapters? Any recommendations will  
be  just nice for the IT show ;-)

Regards
Anand

From ohadlevy at gmail.com  Tue Mar  9 06:17:35 2010
From: ohadlevy at gmail.com (Ohad Levy)
Date: Tue Mar  9 06:18:15 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] where to find a media center case in Singapore
In-Reply-To: <201003091404.24802.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
References: <9ab1d3a91003072341v62a288c2mf1231a5d2c364051@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B95C1A5.1040502@fma-rms.com>
	<201003091404.24802.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9ab1d3a91003082217q7fc5246fs809229becb02277@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Anand,

I use a PVR-250 which is a USB MPEG2 encoder, I bought it 3 years ago
bundled with a usb IR (receiver and transmitter) which works with very
little effort with LIRC.

as far for the laptop, I've considered it, my main argument against it at
this time is that i want my wife to be able to play music without opening
the tv, thats why I was looking for a fully integrated solution.

cheers,
Ohad

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Anand Vaidya <anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 09 March 2010 am 11:33:57 Fabrice A. Marie wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On 3/8/10 3:41 PM, Ohad Levy wrote:
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > > Not really related to FOSS, but maybe someone here can help a bit.
> > > I'm looking to buy a media center case somewhere in Singapore, going
> > > around Sim lim didn't show a lot of promise - any suggestions are
> > > welcomed.
> > > btw: running mythtv if anyone is wondering :)
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ohad
> >
>
> Hi Ohad,
>
> I am thinking of building a Media Center by installing XBMC or some such
> software on a laptop. Laptops nowadays have 300GB+ disks, HDMI, WLAN,
> DVDROM
> or BDROM drives etc.
>
> You could extend the diskspace by either networking (samba? ) or additional
> USB drives.
>
> A combined wireless KB+Mouse enables your TV to function as a youtube
> device
> too
>
> A laptop can be hidden easily in a TV cabinet.
>
> There are two problems I need to solve: Linux compatible USB-TV adapter,
> LIRC
> integration
>
> Any suggestions for Linux compatible USB-TV adapters? Any recommendations
> will
> be  just nice for the IT show ;-)
>
> Regards
> Anand
>
> _______________________________________________
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From alan1000 at pi.per.sg  Tue Mar  9 08:50:58 2010
From: alan1000 at pi.per.sg (Alan Wu)
Date: Tue Mar  9 08:52:14 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] where to find a media center case in Singapore
In-Reply-To: <9ab1d3a91003082217q7fc5246fs809229becb02277@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9ab1d3a91003072341v62a288c2mf1231a5d2c364051@mail.gmail.com>	<4B95C1A5.1040502@fma-rms.com>	<201003091404.24802.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
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From jiinjoo at cs.stanford.edu  Tue Mar  9 13:35:43 2010
From: jiinjoo at cs.stanford.edu (Ong Jiin Joo)
Date: Tue Mar  9 13:36:47 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Conference for Developers
Message-ID: <040BAEBB6D7F48E0B086B4FF6DD629A1@ong>

Hi Everyone,

I'll be running a developer conference in the later part of the year,
targeting an audience of technology people and software developers like you
(and me, if I still count...)

We would like to hear some opinion about what you would like to see in a
developer conference, like what kind of speakers and tracks would benefit
you most?

Specific to the Linux/open source world, is there some recommendation as to
who would be a great person to bring to Singapore?

Any suggestion is appreciated. 

Thanks,
-Jiin Joo


From desai.suhas at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 06:26:33 2010
From: desai.suhas at gmail.com (Suhas Desai)
Date: Wed Mar 10 06:29:59 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Invitation - Volunteers - OSSDevConf 2010
Message-ID: <ceb726b51003092226y76e03f79s5b2fb45e8ac2b42f@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,
*
**Apologize for cross posting!
Request you send this posting to your colleagues, students.*

Trust you are doing well.

Glad to inform you that We are planning for Open source developers
conference - OSSDevConf 2010 in Pune, India on 23-24 Oct 2010 aiming for
software/applications demonstrations only.

I would like to invite you to join us as a Volunteers. We will be releasing
all details about conference, venue in Mid of May 2010.

Seeking Volunteers for :
1. Web Design
2. Project Demos/Ideas Selection
3. Delegate - Accommodation
4. Venue
5.  Finance/Sponsorship Management

Looking forward to see you on board! Suggestions are welcome!

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Suhas Desai
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From crquan at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 06:37:01 2010
From: crquan at gmail.com (Cheng Renquan)
Date: Wed Mar 10 06:37:56 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Re: Fwd: sg-gtug events singapore? & Google Summer of
	Code 2010?
Message-ID: <91b13c311003092237o262ec662l6210f974ddcb8760@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Louis <yyquest@gmail.com> wrote:
> Most likely in March.

So now it's already March 10, is there any gtug event planning?

> Cheers,
> Louis.

And is there any open source organization in sg has submitted a
proposal as mentor?

http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline

The deadline is coming soon,

March 12:
4 PM PDT / 23:00 UTC
Mentoring organization application deadline.

-- 
Cheng Renquan (???), from Singapore

From crquan at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 08:29:59 2010
From: crquan at gmail.com (Cheng Renquan)
Date: Wed Mar 10 11:21:30 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Invitation - Volunteers - OSSDevConf 2010
In-Reply-To: <ceb726b51003092226y76e03f79s5b2fb45e8ac2b42f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ceb726b51003092226y76e03f79s5b2fb45e8ac2b42f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91b13c311003100029k1e94c5fm9bafa2e4d871529c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Suhas Desai <desai.suhas@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to invite you to join us as a Volunteers. We will be releasing
> all details about conference, venue in Mid of May 2010.
>
> Seeking Volunteers for :
> 1. Web Design
> 2. Project Demos/Ideas Selection
> 3. Delegate - Accommodation
> 4. Venue
> 5.? Finance/Sponsorship Management
>
> Looking forward to see you on board! Suggestions are welcome!

Could you introduce more about "Pune, India", and especially there
local Linux/Open Source communities?

Similar URL to Linux User Group like LUGS
http://www.lugs.org.sg/

As far as I'm concerned, I think if you want to hold such a regional
open source developers conference, you local communities or your own
people should do more basic work (website/mailinglist/...), maybe half
or more than half of total effort, after that, you can call volunteers
to participate in the remaining work,

Cheers,

> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Thanks and Regards,
> Suhas Desai

-- 
Cheng Renquan (???), from Singapore

From desai.suhas at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 08:33:40 2010
From: desai.suhas at gmail.com (Suhas Desai)
Date: Wed Mar 10 11:21:30 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Invitation - Volunteers - OSSDevConf 2010
In-Reply-To: <91b13c311003100029k1e94c5fm9bafa2e4d871529c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ceb726b51003092226y76e03f79s5b2fb45e8ac2b42f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<91b13c311003100029k1e94c5fm9bafa2e4d871529c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ceb726b51003100033v66f56dd8v9287999c26eb181d@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks. We are compiling things and will release details soon. We are
seeking some ideas if anyone have to get this event better.

Re,
Suhas

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Cheng Renquan <crquan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Suhas Desai <desai.suhas@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I would like to invite you to join us as a Volunteers. We will be
> releasing
> > all details about conference, venue in Mid of May 2010.
> >
> > Seeking Volunteers for :
> > 1. Web Design
> > 2. Project Demos/Ideas Selection
> > 3. Delegate - Accommodation
> > 4. Venue
> > 5.  Finance/Sponsorship Management
> >
> > Looking forward to see you on board! Suggestions are welcome!
>
> Could you introduce more about "Pune, India", and especially there
> local Linux/Open Source communities?
>
> Similar URL to Linux User Group like LUGS
> http://www.lugs.org.sg/
>
> As far as I'm concerned, I think if you want to hold such a regional
> open source developers conference, you local communities or your own
> people should do more basic work (website/mailinglist/...), maybe half
> or more than half of total effort, after that, you can call volunteers
> to participate in the remaining work,
>
> Cheers,
>
> > Thanks in advance.
> > --
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Suhas Desai
>
> --
> Cheng Renquan (???), from Singapore
>



-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Suhas Desai
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From lindqvust at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 06:22:59 2010
From: lindqvust at gmail.com (lindqvust)
Date: Thu Mar 11 06:23:46 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March,
	will run on Atom boards and N900
Message-ID: <4B988C43.9000408@gmail.com>

Just wanted to share to those N900 owners and to those planning to buy 
an N900 out there.

[http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/meego-code-coming-in-march-will-run-on-atom-boards-and-n900.ars]
=====
MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom boards and N900
By Ryan Paul | Last updated 2 days ago

In an announcement published last week, Nokia's Valtteri Halla revealed 
that Intel and Nokia are planning to launch the public MeeGo source code 
repository by the end of the month.

The MeeGo project began to take shape last month when Intel and Nokia 
announced 
<http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/02/intel-and-nokia-unite-their-linux-platfroms-to-create-meego.ars> 
plans to merge their respective Linux-based mobile computing platforms 
into a single open source software project. The unified software 
platform, which consists of technology from Maemo and Moblin, will be 
designed for use on a wide range of device form factors and will support 
both ARM and x86 architectures.
[...]
The convergence process seems to have gotten a promising start. When the 
source code is made available at the end of the month, it will include 
basic support for running on Atom test boards and Nokia's N900 
smartphone. This is a promising sign for N900 owners, who were initially 
concerned that they might get left behind by the new mobile software 
platform.

"Nokia and Intel have set the target to open the MeeGo repository by the 
end of this month. I guess this is something that finally will signify 
the real 'Day One' of MeeGo project, a genuine merger of moblin and 
maemo," wrote Halla. "What is scheduled to be available then is the 
first and very raw baseline to a source and binary repository to build 
MeeGo trunk on Intel ATOM boards and Nokia N900."
[...]
=====

-- 
-lindqvust

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From sohkamyung at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 00:56:48 2010
From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Fri Mar 12 00:57:17 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom 
	boards and N900
In-Reply-To: <4B988C43.9000408@gmail.com>
References: <4B988C43.9000408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3ace93111003111656nee9849jfc2762fd8ecc50d6@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:22 PM, lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to share to those N900 owners and to those planning to buy an
> N900 out there.
>
> [http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/meego-code-coming-in-march-will-run-on-atom-boards-and-n900.ars]
> [...]

Which, according to today's Today newspaper, is to be expected in
dotSG by the end of the month.

[http://www.todayonline.com/Tech/Techreviews/EDC100312-0000079/Pocket-computer-thats-also-a-phone]

=====
Pocket computer that's also a phone
by Hedirman Supian
05:55 AM Mar 12, 2010
These days, the operating system (OS) that runs on your smartphone
shares as much spotlight, if not more, than the device itself. That's
an indication of how smartphones are becoming more like software
platforms, rather than just communication devices.

For this review, the spotlight is on Maemo, a Linux-based OS developed
by Nokia that was initially made for its Internet tablet devices. Now,
Maemo has been shoehorned into Nokia's N900 smartphone.
[...]
The Nokia N900 is expected to be on shelves by the end of the month.
Local pricing isn't available yet but the US pricing for this device
is US$649 ($907).
=====
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From sohkamyung at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 01:38:25 2010
From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Fri Mar 12 01:38:52 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] DD-WRT to power Buffalo Wi-Fi routers
Message-ID: <3ace93111003111738x38eceeefo5cedcdf068467216@mail.gmail.com>

More official open-source based routers on the way.

[http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/DD-WRT-to-power-Buffalo-Wi-Fi-routers-951998.html]

See also [http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/content/buffalo-highpower-routers-with-dd-wrt-factory-firmware]
=====
DD-WRT to power Buffalo Wi-Fi routers

Buffalo Technology has announced that it will be using the free DD-WRT
Linux-based alternative open source firmware in several of its
upcoming consumer and small business wireless routers, including the
WZR-HP-G300NH, WHR-HP-G300N and WHR-HP-GN. Discussing the new
partnership, Ralph Spagnola, vice president of sales at Buffalo
Technology, said that he considers the move to be a "natural
evolution," adding that, ?With DD-WRT, we now deliver professional
grade solutions at entry-level prices?.
[...]
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From mbaehr at email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at  Fri Mar 12 15:42:01 2010
From: mbaehr at email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at (Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E4hr?=)
Date: Fri Mar 12 15:42:38 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] DD-WRT to power Buffalo Wi-Fi routers
In-Reply-To: <3ace93111003111738x38eceeefo5cedcdf068467216@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ace93111003111738x38eceeefo5cedcdf068467216@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100312154200.GM17735@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at>

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 09:38:25AM +0800, Soh Kam Yung wrote:
> More official open-source based routers on the way.
> 
> [http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/DD-WRT-to-power-Buffalo-Wi-Fi-routers-951998.html]

unfortunately, if the entry on wikipedia is correct, then dd-wrt is not
really free software and may even violate the GPL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT

this article provides some background:
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/columns/article.php/3816236

greetings, martin.
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From sylvain.bougerel.devel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 05:07:40 2010
From: sylvain.bougerel.devel at gmail.com (Sylvain Bougerel)
Date: Sun Mar 14 05:08:10 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom 
	boards and N900
In-Reply-To: <b12fbaca1003121756t180319d1se25041c2b8148280@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B988C43.9000408@gmail.com>
	<3ace93111003111656nee9849jfc2762fd8ecc50d6@mail.gmail.com>
	<b12fbaca1003121756t180319d1se25041c2b8148280@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b12fbaca1003132107h19cc31fekf848930197fd0add@mail.gmail.com>

Will they provide a real customer oriented experience?

On 12 Mar 2010 08:57, "Soh Kam Yung" <sohkamyung@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:22 PM, lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to share to th...
> [...]

Which, according to today's Today newspaper, is to be expected in
dotSG by the end of the month.

[
http://www.todayonline.com/Tech/Techreviews/EDC100312-0000079/Pocket-computer-thats-also-a-phone
]

=====
Pocket computer that's also a phone
by Hedirman Supian
05:55 AM Mar 12, 2010
These days, the operating system (OS) that runs on your smartphone
shares as much spotlight, if not more, than the device itself. That's
an indication of how smartphones are becoming more like software
platforms, rather than just communication devices.

For this review, the spotlight is on Maemo, a Linux-based OS developed
by Nokia that was initially made for its Internet tablet devices. Now,
Maemo has been shoehorned into Nokia's N900 smartphone.
[...]
The Nokia N900 is expected to be on shelves by the end of the month.
Local pricing isn't available yet but the US pricing for this device
is US$649 ($907).
=====
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From mmazur at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 01:21:15 2010
From: mmazur at gmail.com (Mike Mazur)
Date: Mon Mar 15 01:22:07 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint in Singapore?
Message-ID: <184110a71003141821v34dcdd44m16a9473d33a12efa@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Does anyone know whether I can find a ThinkPad USB Keyboard with
TrackPoint[1] or an UltraNav keyboard[2] anywhere in Singapore? I
looked at Lenovo's Singapore web shop but they don't have any
keyboards with the TrackPoint available.

Basically I'm looking for a USB keyboard with built-in track point.
I'm open to suggestions outside the ThinkPad line.

Thanks!
Mike


[1] http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=38&Code=55Y9003&current-category-id=E9ADAEB6787146E29B78400A33E7FE8A&&hide_menu_area=yes
[2] http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/review-lenovo-thinkpad-ultranav-keyboard-20090325/

From jfs.world at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 02:52:31 2010
From: jfs.world at gmail.com (Jeffrey 'jf' Lim)
Date: Mon Mar 15 02:52:57 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint in 
	Singapore?
In-Reply-To: <184110a71003141821v34dcdd44m16a9473d33a12efa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <184110a71003141821v34dcdd44m16a9473d33a12efa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b3125cc1003141952y23dbadc4o79bc41ce71e305ac@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Mike Mazur <mmazur@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know whether I can find a ThinkPad USB Keyboard with
> TrackPoint[1] or an UltraNav keyboard[2] anywhere in Singapore? I
> looked at Lenovo's Singapore web shop but they don't have any
> keyboards with the TrackPoint available.
>
> Basically I'm looking for a USB keyboard with built-in track point.
> I'm open to suggestions outside the ThinkPad line.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>

:) heheh, good taste u have! At Addon Systems at funan you can get.

-jf

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and if you use the program, he is your master."
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"It's so hard to write a graphics driver that open-sourcing it would not help."
    -- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manager, NVIDIA Corporation
http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228

From sohkamyung at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 07:17:50 2010
From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Mon Mar 15 07:18:16 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom 
	boards and N900
In-Reply-To: <b12fbaca1003132107h19cc31fekf848930197fd0add@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B988C43.9000408@gmail.com>
	<3ace93111003111656nee9849jfc2762fd8ecc50d6@mail.gmail.com>
	<b12fbaca1003121756t180319d1se25041c2b8148280@mail.gmail.com>
	<b12fbaca1003132107h19cc31fekf848930197fd0add@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3ace93111003150017t26b53f9do420edf9abb7d41d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Sylvain Bougerel
<sylvain.bougerel.devel@gmail.com> wrote:
> Will they provide a real customer oriented experience?
>

We'll find out soon.  Available for preorder now
[http://www.nokia.com.sg/find-products/products/n900-preorder] via
this CNet commentary
[http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/is-the-nokia-n900-still-relevant-/]

=====
Is the Nokia N900 still relevant?
 Damian Koh  |  Mar 15, 2010

The strange thing about waiting for something is sometimes when the
product eventually arrives, the enthusiasm goes out the back door.
When we reviewed the Nokia N900 last December, we were told the
Linux-based Maemo 5 Internet Tablet would land in Singapore Q1 this
year. Well, here it is. Nokia is currently taking preorders for the
N900 at S$999 (US$716.69) and the device will reach consumers March
27. From announcement to arrival, it will have been a seven-month
wait, enough time for a cooling off.
[...]
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From sohkamyung at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 10:13:39 2010
From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Mon Mar 15 10:14:09 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom 
	boards and N900
In-Reply-To: <3ace93111003150017t26b53f9do420edf9abb7d41d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B988C43.9000408@gmail.com>
	<3ace93111003111656nee9849jfc2762fd8ecc50d6@mail.gmail.com>
	<b12fbaca1003121756t180319d1se25041c2b8148280@mail.gmail.com>
	<b12fbaca1003132107h19cc31fekf848930197fd0add@mail.gmail.com>
	<3ace93111003150017t26b53f9do420edf9abb7d41d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3ace93111003150313v66df0bb6l2815657b4333dd56@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Soh Kam Yung <sohkamyung@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We'll find out soon. ?Available for preorder now
> [http://www.nokia.com.sg/find-products/products/n900-preorder] via
> this CNet commentary
> [http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/is-the-nokia-n900-still-relevant-/]
>

This does not sound good:
[http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/nokia-n900-not-upgradeable-to-meego/]
=====
Nokia N900 not upgradeable to MeeGo
 Damian Koh  |  Mar 15, 2010

Dang!

This just in from Nokia, in response to our query. "Maemo on Nokia
N900 is not upgradeable to MeeGo. The first MeeGo device is targeted
to be released during the second half of 2010. However, applications
written for Moblin or Maemo Qt APIs will run on MeeGo."

That's probably the first official statement we've heard from the
Finnish phone-maker regarding the upgradeability of the N900, which
runs on Maemo 5, to MeeGo. The open-source Linux operating system
which merges Maemo 6 and Moblin 2 was jointly announced by Nokia and
Intel last month.
[...]
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From lindqvust at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 10:59:39 2010
From: lindqvust at gmail.com (lindqvust)
Date: Mon Mar 15 11:00:10 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom boards
	and N900
Message-ID: <4B9E131B.90709@gmail.com>

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom 
boards and N900
From: Soh Kam Yung <sohkamyung@gmail.com>
To: slugnet <slugnet@lugs.org.sg>
Date: Monday, 15 March, 2010 6:13:39 PM

 > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Soh Kam Yung<sohkamyung@gmail.com>  
wrote:
 >>
 >> We'll find out soon.  Available for preorder now
 >> [http://www.nokia.com.sg/find-products/products/n900-preorder] via
 >> this CNet commentary
 >> 
[http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/is-the-nokia-n900-still-relevant-/]
 >>
 >
 > This does not sound good:
 > 
[http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/nokia-n900-not-upgradeable-to-meego/]
 > =====
 > Nokia N900 not upgradeable to MeeGo
 >   Damian Koh  |  Mar 15, 2010
 >
 > Dang!
 >
 > This just in from Nokia, in response to our query. "Maemo on Nokia
 > N900 is not upgradeable to MeeGo. The first MeeGo device is targeted
 > to be released during the second half of 2010. However, applications
 > written for Moblin or Maemo Qt APIs will run on MeeGo."
 >
 > That's probably the first official statement we've heard from the
 > Finnish phone-maker regarding the upgradeability of the N900, which
 > runs on Maemo 5, to MeeGo. The open-source Linux operating system
 > which merges Maemo 6 and Moblin 2 was jointly announced by Nokia and
 > Intel last month.
 > [...]
 > =====

Strange. If indeed this statement: "first and very raw baseline to a 
source and binary repository to build MeeGo trunk on Intel ATOM boards 
and Nokia N900" rings true, then doesn't that mean that development 
efforts are being focused on running MeeGo on the N900?

Here's a useful post I found at maemo.org: 
[http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=45213]
====
Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love 
the Bomb
[...]
So, let's start dissection the argument: "Nokia not bringing MeeGo or 
Maemo6 to N900".

First off, let's look at our raw material - the N900. You see a 
cellphone. It requires updates from vendor to get new features, it will 
stop getting updates when vendor stops caring and there's nothing we can 
do about it.

Instead, I see a mobile computer. Remember your PC? The same way you 
could install Vista on your PC or XP or even Ubuntu or other crazy 
operating systems, this is possible on your N900 - you do not have to 
rely on your hardware vendor to provide a OS for your device. On a PC, 
you rely on them providing *drivers* for your computer. It's the same on 
a N900 - drivers, kernel,
[...]
Now, can we please stop worrying about all this stuff and love the fact 
we're having a device as open as a PC to bring us things when a 
corporate entity might not - and a community capable of bringing us the 
features anyway? And that we are getting a fully open platform (MeeGo) 
that we can easily get on our devices. And even so, Maemo5 has a -long- 
life ahead of it still. You aren't getting forgotten after this 
announcement.
[...]

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From anandvaidya.ml at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 04:45:26 2010
From: anandvaidya.ml at gmail.com (Anand Vaidya)
Date: Tue Mar 16 04:45:55 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Need 3G Modem/Router Info...
Message-ID: <201003161245.27090.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am still in the dark ages of using Singtel broadband over the phone line, 
and the occassional Wireless@SG. So for those enlightened folks on the list 
who are already on Mobile broadband, I have a few questions:

- My objective is to send SMS from a linux machine and use data traffic  (~ 
300MB/mo). I don't want an expensive subscription, pay per usage is fine.

- I don't mind paying for the hardware. Choices are USB modems (many 
problems?) or Mobile Broadband routers : Having "enjoyed" poor service from 
Singtel, I will not do any further business with them, so I checked M1 and 
found that they have two broadband router products:

1. Huawei B970b - has a USB and some Win driver 

2. "Huawei Router" with no product id : 
http://m1.com.sg/M1/site/M1Corp/menuitem.e2f30a2a1a1860b609b422103f2000a0/?vgnextoid=6bcad559f110b110VgnVCM100000695a230aRCRD&vgnextfmt=pdate:1003161223:

Looks like #2 is what I want, since it is pure ethernet/wifi on the client side 
and hopefully no "windows-only" crap. The subs seem pretty good too: unlimited 
data, <$20 pm

If anyone has used or is using this device, I'd appreciate your opinion.

BTW, did you get rid of the wired broadband? Does it make sense?

PS: You may note that M1 has a technical error on the How It Works diagram in 
that page. 


Regards
Anand

From schivmeister at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 05:14:31 2010
From: schivmeister at gmail.com (Ray Rashif)
Date: Tue Mar 16 05:15:20 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Need 3G Modem/Router Info...
In-Reply-To: <201003161245.27090.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
References: <201003161245.27090.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <291cdeab1003152214l6a7a1969oba119aa18398872e@mail.gmail.com>

On 16 March 2010 12:45, Anand Vaidya <anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am still in the dark ages of using Singtel broadband over the phone line,
> and the occassional Wireless@SG. So for those enlightened folks on the list
> who are already on Mobile broadband, I have a few questions:
>
> - My objective is to send SMS from a linux machine and use data traffic ?(~
> 300MB/mo). I don't want an expensive subscription, pay per usage is fine.
>
> - I don't mind paying for the hardware. Choices are USB modems (many
> problems?) or Mobile Broadband routers : Having "enjoyed" poor service from
> Singtel, I will not do any further business with them, so I checked M1 and
> found that they have two broadband router products:
>
> 1. Huawei B970b - has a USB and some Win driver
>
> 2. "Huawei Router" with no product id :
> http://m1.com.sg/M1/site/M1Corp/menuitem.e2f30a2a1a1860b609b422103f2000a0/?vgnextoid=6bcad559f110b110VgnVCM100000695a230aRCRD&vgnextfmt=pdate:1003161223:
>
> Looks like #2 is what I want, since it is pure ethernet/wifi on the client side
> and hopefully no "windows-only" crap. The subs seem pretty good too: unlimited
> data, <$20 pm
>
> If anyone has used or is using this device, I'd appreciate your opinion.
>
> BTW, did you get rid of the wired broadband? Does it make sense?
>
> PS: You may note that M1 has a technical error on the How It Works diagram in
> that page.

I use their cheapest mobile broadband service for almost half a decade
now, but not their router. I once went to M1 to get the router, on the
premise that:

"For subscribers who already have the VMCC, rental of the 3G Broadband
Router is free."

From: http://tinyurl.com/m1plans

But they flat-out told me there was no such offer. I didn't have
access to a laptop to show them their own site and claim, and didn't
bother to direct them to their own stations to do so. I thought I'd
print out the relevant part and bring it to them next time.

Other than that, at home I have a fixed StarHub cable line, so nope I
didn't get rid of it. But for the meantime I'm living alone and it
does suffice, and am currently overseas but other SIMs do _not_ work
with it. I have been travelling a lot lately and I have to say our
little M1's plans are just the best in the continent and Australia
(price:peformance).

The only complaint I have is the inherent high latency of GSM
networks; every SSH session is a PITA but I've gotten used to it.


--
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From desire at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 06:13:21 2010
From: desire at gmail.com (desire@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Mar 16 06:13:45 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Need 3G Modem/Router Info...
In-Reply-To: <201003161245.27090.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
References: <201003161245.27090.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bf77ac7b1003152313i2facc9d3mde58b39f47b39531@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Anand Vaidya <anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> I am still in the dark ages of using Singtel broadband over the phone line,
> and the occassional Wireless@SG. So for those enlightened folks on the
> list
> who are already on Mobile broadband, I have a few questions:
>
> - My objective is to send SMS from a linux machine and use data traffic  (~
> 300MB/mo). I don't want an expensive subscription, pay per usage is fine.
>
> - I don't mind paying for the hardware. Choices are USB modems (many
> problems?) or Mobile Broadband routers : Having "enjoyed" poor service from
> Singtel, I will not do any further business with them, so I checked M1 and
> found that they have two broadband router products:
>

My own answer to a similar problem is:
- retain wired broadband, cos wired performance >> wireless performance
- send sms using scripted interaction with the starhubgee website (see
starhubGeeSms on http://autosms.uuuq.com)
- use Wireless@SGx where available
- leverage on my mobile phone's 3G broadband (I'm using joikuspot with my
symbian-based phone to share its 3G connection over wifi - similar software
exist with other phone OS)  So I'm currently paying ~ $5/mth for the 10 mths
in the year that 10MB of traffic suffices, which comes in handy for all
those times where a notebook is not necessary or available.  It's also
capped at ~ $30/mth for the rare cases where I do need more traffic (eg,
when I'm stuck in camp serving my reservist duties).
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From: lindqvust at gmail.com (lindqvust)
Date: Tue Mar 16 08:37:45 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom boards
	and N900
In-Reply-To: <4B9E131B.90709@gmail.com>
References: <4B9E131B.90709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9F432A.70901@gmail.com>

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on Atom 
boards and N900
From: lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com>
To: slugnet <slugnet@lugs.org.sg>
Date: Monday, 15 March, 2010 6:59:39 PM
> -------- Original Message  --------
> Subject: Re: [Slugnet] [OT] MeeGo code coming in March, will run on 
> Atom boards and N900
> From: Soh Kam Yung <sohkamyung@gmail.com>
> To: slugnet <slugnet@lugs.org.sg>
> Date: Monday, 15 March, 2010 6:13:39 PM
>
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Soh Kam Yung<sohkamyung@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> >>
> >> We'll find out soon.  Available for preorder now
> >> [http://www.nokia.com.sg/find-products/products/n900-preorder] via
> >> this CNet commentary
> >> 
> [http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/is-the-nokia-n900-still-relevant-/]
> >>
> >
> > This does not sound good:
> > 
> [http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/nokia-n900-not-upgradeable-to-meego/]
> > =====
> > Nokia N900 not upgradeable to MeeGo
> >   Damian Koh  |  Mar 15, 2010
> >
> > Dang!
> >
> > This just in from Nokia, in response to our query. "Maemo on Nokia
> > N900 is not upgradeable to MeeGo. The first MeeGo device is targeted
> > to be released during the second half of 2010. However, applications
> > written for Moblin or Maemo Qt APIs will run on MeeGo."
> >
> > That's probably the first official statement we've heard from the
> > Finnish phone-maker regarding the upgradeability of the N900, which
> > runs on Maemo 5, to MeeGo. The open-source Linux operating system
> > which merges Maemo 6 and Moblin 2 was jointly announced by Nokia and
> > Intel last month.
> > [...]
> > =====
>
> Strange. If indeed this statement: "first and very raw baseline to a 
> source and binary repository to build MeeGo trunk on Intel ATOM boards 
> and Nokia N900" rings true, then doesn't that mean that development 
> efforts are being focused on running MeeGo on the N900?
>
> Here's a useful post I found at maemo.org: 
> [http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=45213]
> ====
> Maemo 6 and/or MeeGo on N900: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and 
> Love the Bomb
> [...]
> So, let's start dissection the argument: "Nokia not bringing MeeGo or 
> Maemo6 to N900".
>
> First off, let's look at our raw material - the N900. You see a 
> cellphone. It requires updates from vendor to get new features, it 
> will stop getting updates when vendor stops caring and there's nothing 
> we can do about it.
>
> Instead, I see a mobile computer. Remember your PC? The same way you 
> could install Vista on your PC or XP or even Ubuntu or other crazy 
> operating systems, this is possible on your N900 - you do not have to 
> rely on your hardware vendor to provide a OS for your device. On a PC, 
> you rely on them providing *drivers* for your computer. It's the same 
> on a N900 - drivers, kernel,
> [...]
> Now, can we please stop worrying about all this stuff and love the 
> fact we're having a device as open as a PC to bring us things when a 
> corporate entity might not - and a community capable of bringing us 
> the features anyway? And that we are getting a fully open platform 
> (MeeGo) that we can easily get on our devices. And even so, Maemo5 has 
> a -long- life ahead of it still. You aren't getting forgotten after 
> this announcement.
> [...]
> -- 
> -lindqvust
I found a very informative wiki page from maemo.org.

[http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect#The_MeeGo_project_has_announced_support_for_the_N900.__What_does_it_really_mean_for_my_N900_.3F]

That should address most of our questions. It also addresses the 
confusion behind the blogger (Damian Koh) on CNET Asia claiming that 
Nokia will not offer MeeGo for N900.

-- 
-lindqvust

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From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Thu Mar 18 01:58:45 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
Message-ID: <3ace93111003171858u7118fbe6r5ded5b621dc7bf03@mail.gmail.com>

May be a coincidence, but my Nokia N810 is starting to mis-behave on
me (reboots on charging - battery issue?), as if it is telling me to
upgrade...};-)

So my question is in two parts:

1) Who in dotSG is planning to get the N900 when launched (not
necessarily during the pre-order)?

2) Which telco gives the best mobile dataplan?  My voice usage is
minimal and I plan to mobile-surf.  I prefer a pre-paid card or a
minimal subscription plan - don't want to be tied up for two years (a
six month plan is acceptable).

Regards,
Kam Yung
-- 
Soh Kam Yung
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(http://www.google.com/reader/shared/16851815156817689753)
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From mmazur at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 02:24:31 2010
From: mmazur at gmail.com (Mike Mazur)
Date: Thu Mar 18 02:25:15 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint in 
	Singapore?
In-Reply-To: <4b3125cc1003141952y23dbadc4o79bc41ce71e305ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <184110a71003141821v34dcdd44m16a9473d33a12efa@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4b3125cc1003141952y23dbadc4o79bc41ce71e305ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <184110a71003171924o44da4a03w84493d3646680b97@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:52, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <jfs.world@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Mike Mazur <mmazur@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Does anyone know whether I can find a ThinkPad USB Keyboard with
>> TrackPoint[1] or an UltraNav keyboard[2] anywhere in Singapore?
>
> :) heheh, good taste u have! At Addon Systems at funan you can get.

Went there on Tuesday, picked up a USB Keyboard with TrackPoint[1] for
$99. Thanks!

Mike


[1] http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=38&Code=55Y9003&current-category-id=E9ADAEB6787146E29B78400A33E7FE8A&&hide_menu_area=yes

From jfs.world at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 02:55:35 2010
From: jfs.world at gmail.com (Jeffrey 'jf' Lim)
Date: Thu Mar 18 02:56:08 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
In-Reply-To: <3ace93111003171858u7118fbe6r5ded5b621dc7bf03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ace93111003171858u7118fbe6r5ded5b621dc7bf03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b3125cc1003171955x2761122dy1022eaad8ed96c8a@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Soh Kam Yung <sohkamyung@gmail.com> wrote:
> May be a coincidence, but my Nokia N810 is starting to mis-behave on
> me (reboots on charging - battery issue?), as if it is telling me to
> upgrade...};-)
>
> So my question is in two parts:
>
> 1) Who in dotSG is planning to get the N900 when launched (not
> necessarily during the pre-order)?
>

How about the reverse? Because MeeGo/Nokia has abandoned the N900
(yeah, yeah, so it is a "PC". So what? My open source sensitivities
tell me that i have better things to do/better devices to get than to
support this manufacturer with my money), I am NOT planning on getting
the N900. Perhaps i'll get one when the REAL meego devices come out -
but for now...


> 2) Which telco gives the best mobile dataplan? ?My voice usage is
> minimal and I plan to mobile-surf. ?I prefer a pre-paid card or a
> minimal subscription plan - don't want to be tied up for two years (a
> six month plan is acceptable).
>

I dont know too much about the rest of the telcos - but starhub's
stuff is at http://www.starhub.com/mobile/mobilevalueaddedservices/maxmobile/maxmobileplanstable.html

-jf


> Regards,
> Kam Yung
> --
> Soh Kam Yung
> my Google Reader Shared links:
> (http://www.google.com/reader/shared/16851815156817689753)
> my Google Reader Shared SFAS links:
> (http://www.google.com/reader/shared/user/16851815156817689753/label/sfas)
>
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From sohkamyung at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 03:14:40 2010
From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Thu Mar 18 03:15:09 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
In-Reply-To: <4b3125cc1003171955x2761122dy1022eaad8ed96c8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ace93111003171858u7118fbe6r5ded5b621dc7bf03@mail.gmail.com>
	<4b3125cc1003171955x2761122dy1022eaad8ed96c8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3ace93111003172014y141deb56r677190c98e27fbad@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <jfs.world@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about the reverse? Because MeeGo/Nokia has abandoned the N900
> (yeah, yeah, so it is a "PC". So what? My open source sensitivities
> tell me that i have better things to do/better devices to get than to
> support this manufacturer with my money), I am NOT planning on getting
> the N900. Perhaps i'll get one when the REAL meego devices come out -
> but for now...

Yeah, this MeeGo/N900 supported/not supported issue is a concern for
me.  I'll be monitoring my head/gadget lust over this in the coming
period...};-)

So, the poll now stands at:
1a) Getting the N900 - 0
1b) Not Getting the N900 - 1

2) Mobile data plans with minimal voice: Starhub MaxMobile

Regards,
Kam Yung
-- 
Soh Kam Yung
my Google Reader Shared links:
(http://www.google.com/reader/shared/16851815156817689753)
my Google Reader Shared SFAS links:
(http://www.google.com/reader/shared/user/16851815156817689753/label/sfas)

From jfs.world at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 04:46:54 2010
From: jfs.world at gmail.com (Jeffrey 'jf' Lim)
Date: Thu Mar 18 04:47:24 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint in 
	Singapore?
In-Reply-To: <184110a71003171924o44da4a03w84493d3646680b97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <184110a71003141821v34dcdd44m16a9473d33a12efa@mail.gmail.com>
	<4b3125cc1003141952y23dbadc4o79bc41ce71e305ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<184110a71003171924o44da4a03w84493d3646680b97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b3125cc1003172146u899204dm44ad0692bbbc5e7e@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Mike Mazur <mmazur@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:52, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <jfs.world@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Mike Mazur <mmazur@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know whether I can find a ThinkPad USB Keyboard with
>>> TrackPoint[1] or an UltraNav keyboard[2] anywhere in Singapore?
>>
>> :) heheh, good taste u have! At Addon Systems at funan you can get.
>
> Went there on Tuesday, picked up a USB Keyboard with TrackPoint[1] for
> $99. Thanks!
>

:) enjoy ur new, spanking, usb trackpoint spill-proof (i hope!)
keyboard! You got the model number for this?

-jf


--
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."
    --Richard Stallman

"It's so hard to write a graphics driver that open-sourcing it would not help."
    -- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manager, NVIDIA Corporation
http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228

From lindqvust at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 08:03:43 2010
From: lindqvust at gmail.com (lindqvust)
Date: Thu Mar 18 08:04:23 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
In-Reply-To: <3ace93111003172014y141deb56r677190c98e27fbad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ace93111003171858u7118fbe6r5ded5b621dc7bf03@mail.gmail.com>	<4b3125cc1003171955x2761122dy1022eaad8ed96c8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3ace93111003172014y141deb56r677190c98e27fbad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA1DE5F.6000807@gmail.com>

Soh Kam Yung wrote:
> Yeah, this MeeGo/N900 supported/not supported issue is a concern for
> me.  I'll be monitoring my head/gadget lust over this in the coming
> period...};-)
>
> So, the poll now stands at:
> 1a) Getting the N900 - 0
> 1b) Not Getting the N900 - 1
>
> 2) Mobile data plans with minimal voice: Starhub MaxMobile
>
> Regards,
> Kam Yung
>    
The issue on whether the N900 will be getting MeeGo has been answered on 
the wiki page of the maemo.org website. Valtteri Halla already stated 
that the N900 will get a developer build of MeeGo (and it will have to 
be installed fresh).

I'm quite happy with my N900, and I'm also excited about the next 
firmware release, which will enable Qt 4.6 on the N900 giving a large 
range of applications on my phone. So that's a +1 on getting an N900 for me.

Lastly, I'm planning to sign up for a Mobile Broadband Plan with 
Singtel. Mostly just due to preference.

-- 
Regards,
-lindqvust


From mmazur at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 11:53:41 2010
From: mmazur at gmail.com (Mike Mazur)
Date: Thu Mar 18 11:54:27 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] [OT] ThinkPad USB Keyboard with TrackPoint in 
	Singapore?
In-Reply-To: <4b3125cc1003172146u899204dm44ad0692bbbc5e7e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <184110a71003141821v34dcdd44m16a9473d33a12efa@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4b3125cc1003141952y23dbadc4o79bc41ce71e305ac@mail.gmail.com> 
	<184110a71003171924o44da4a03w84493d3646680b97@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4b3125cc1003172146u899204dm44ad0692bbbc5e7e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <184110a71003180453v6aca879ewbf5a861db4dade5c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:46, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <jfs.world@gmail.com> wrote:
> :) enjoy ur new, spanking, usb trackpoint spill-proof (i hope!)
> keyboard! You got the model number for this?

Thanks :) The model number is SK-8855:

http://keyboards.kendeeter.com/2009/09/15/thinkpad-keyboard-review.html

Mike

From yyquest at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 12:06:26 2010
From: yyquest at gmail.com (Louis)
Date: Fri Mar 19 03:54:12 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Re: Fwd: sg-gtug events singapore? & Google Summer of
	Code 2010?
In-Reply-To: <91b13c311003092237o262ec662l6210f974ddcb8760@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91b13c311003092237o262ec662l6210f974ddcb8760@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61c961331003160506y54091d69gcf680ac32fec1ec4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply. The meetup is confirmed for 10 April because
there are currently some renovations at Google.

Cheers,
Louis.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Cheng Renquan <crquan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Louis <yyquest@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Most likely in March.
>
> So now it's already March 10, is there any gtug event planning?
>
>> Cheers,
>> Louis.
>
> And is there any open source organization in sg has submitted a
> proposal as mentor?
>
> http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline
>
> The deadline is coming soon,
>
> March 12:
> 4 PM PDT / 23:00 UTC
> Mentoring organization application deadline.
>
> --
> Cheng Renquan (???), from Singapore
>

From lugs.org.sg at tange.dk  Fri Mar 19 11:45:05 2010
From: lugs.org.sg at tange.dk (Ole Tange)
Date: Fri Mar 19 11:45:47 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Wimax for Linux
Message-ID: <ce534faa1003190445y6a8ebd2buc05ed2ea4c051b60@mail.gmail.com>

One of my friends needs a wireless internet connection for his Linux laptop.

What are the options for that?

Does anyone have experience with getting it to work using Linux?


/Ole

From schivmeister at gmail.com  Fri Mar 19 13:35:41 2010
From: schivmeister at gmail.com (Ray Rashif)
Date: Fri Mar 19 13:36:29 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Wimax for Linux
In-Reply-To: <ce534faa1003190445y6a8ebd2buc05ed2ea4c051b60@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce534faa1003190445y6a8ebd2buc05ed2ea4c051b60@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <291cdeab1003190635w53d9c8c0o8afdc0e29f24e76c@mail.gmail.com>

On 19 March 2010 19:45, Ole Tange <lugs.org.sg@tange.dk> wrote:
> One of my friends needs a wireless internet connection for his Linux laptop.
>
> What are the options for that?
>
> Does anyone have experience with getting it to work using Linux?

You'd need an 802.16 wireless adapter to receive those signals, and then:

http://www.linuxwimax.org/

In case you weren't aware, WiMax doesn't yet have a significant share
in residential services here (but I believe the Wireless@SG backbone
is WiMax technology), probably because it isn't that helpful for home
users in sunny tiny Singapore.

If you're talking of wireless connectivity in SG, then we have
HSDPA/3G from most of the providers. Else, you can sign up for
Wireless@SG. These are either GSM or 802.11, so you should have no
problem as Linux already supports a good deal of modems, cellphones
and adapters.


--
GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD

From harish.pillay at gmail.com  Fri Mar 19 14:56:10 2010
From: harish.pillay at gmail.com (Harish Pillay)
Date: Fri Mar 19 14:56:38 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Wimax for Linux
In-Reply-To: <ce534faa1003190445y6a8ebd2buc05ed2ea4c051b60@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce534faa1003190445y6a8ebd2buc05ed2ea4c051b60@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eeea2b6b1003190756j39bf7f8ch38b637539f82ec70@mail.gmail.com>

> One of my friends needs a wireless internet connection for his Linux laptop.
>
> What are the options for that?
>
> Does anyone have experience with getting it to work using Linux?

Hmm. I thought the WiMax modem had a eth link to the machine - and you
connect and setup via a browser?
-- 
Harish Pillay h.pillay@ieee.org gpg id: 746809E3
fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3

From schivmeister at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 05:36:57 2010
From: schivmeister at gmail.com (Ray Rashif)
Date: Sat Mar 20 05:37:20 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Wimax for Linux
In-Reply-To: <eeea2b6b1003190756j39bf7f8ch38b637539f82ec70@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce534faa1003190445y6a8ebd2buc05ed2ea4c051b60@mail.gmail.com>
	<eeea2b6b1003190756j39bf7f8ch38b637539f82ec70@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <291cdeab1003192236n1d45a033h903da76433979e92@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/03/2010, Harish Pillay <harish.pillay@gmail.com> wrote:
>> One of my friends needs a wireless internet connection for his Linux
>> laptop.
>>
>> What are the options for that?
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with getting it to work using Linux?
>
> Hmm. I thought the WiMax modem had a eth link to the machine - and you
> connect and setup via a browser?

Yes, there are at least 2 types of receivers - indoor and outdoor. I
think the outdoor one emits 802.11 after receiving 802.16 (or might be
configurable to be a repeater instead), while the indoor device will
have eth port(s) and acts as a normal cable modem in that you can then
use a router to distribute the line. There are also USB devices which
are practically like WiFi adapters, but for 802.16 and need to be
supported by operating system drivers.


--
GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD

From soonleong.wong at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 00:35:52 2010
From: soonleong.wong at gmail.com (soonleong wong)
Date: Sun Mar 21 00:36:27 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Need 3G Modem/Router Info...
In-Reply-To: <bf77ac7b1003152313i2facc9d3mde58b39f47b39531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201003161245.27090.anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>
	<bf77ac7b1003152313i2facc9d3mde58b39f47b39531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e3d0a7c1003201735i18fa7cc7v243ec30034b48322@mail.gmail.com>

I am been using Sapido GR1100 for mobile broadband router, see
http://www.sapido.com.tw/EN/product_3.5g.htm. I bought it from Bizgram, 5th
floor Sim Lim Square.

Cheers,
SL Wong.


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:13 PM, <desire@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Anand Vaidya <anandvaidya.ml@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> I am still in the dark ages of using Singtel broadband over the phone
>> line,
>> and the occassional Wireless@SG. So for those enlightened folks on the
>> list
>> who are already on Mobile broadband, I have a few questions:
>>
>> - My objective is to send SMS from a linux machine and use data traffic
>>  (~
>> 300MB/mo). I don't want an expensive subscription, pay per usage is fine.
>>
>> - I don't mind paying for the hardware. Choices are USB modems (many
>> problems?) or Mobile Broadband routers : Having "enjoyed" poor service
>> from
>> Singtel, I will not do any further business with them, so I checked M1 and
>> found that they have two broadband router products:
>>
>
> My own answer to a similar problem is:
> - retain wired broadband, cos wired performance >> wireless performance
> - send sms using scripted interaction with the starhubgee website (see
> starhubGeeSms on http://autosms.uuuq.com)
> - use Wireless@SGx where available
> - leverage on my mobile phone's 3G broadband (I'm using joikuspot with my
> symbian-based phone to share its 3G connection over wifi - similar software
> exist with other phone OS)  So I'm currently paying ~ $5/mth for the 10 mths
> in the year that 10MB of traffic suffices, which comes in handy for all
> those times where a notebook is not necessary or available.  It's also
> capped at ~ $30/mth for the rare cases where I do need more traffic (eg,
> when I'm stuck in camp serving my reservist duties).
>
>
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From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Mon Mar 22 04:15:56 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
In-Reply-To: <4BA1DE5F.6000807@gmail.com>
References: <3ace93111003171858u7118fbe6r5ded5b621dc7bf03@mail.gmail.com>
	<4b3125cc1003171955x2761122dy1022eaad8ed96c8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3ace93111003172014y141deb56r677190c98e27fbad@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:03 PM, lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm quite happy with my N900, and I'm also excited about the next firmware
> release, which will enable Qt 4.6 on the N900 giving a large range of
> applications on my phone. So that's a +1 on getting an N900 for me.
>
> Lastly, I'm planning to sign up for a Mobile Broadband Plan with Singtel.
> Mostly just due to preference.
>
> --
> Regards,
> -lindqvust

The poll now stands at

1a) Getting/got the N900 - 1
1b) Not Getting the N900 - 2

2) Mobile data plans with minimal voice: Starhub MaxMobile, Singtel
Mobile Broadband

I found this posting at TechieLobang
[http://techielobang.com/blog/2010/03/03/nokia-n900-bloggers-preview-video-within/]
on the N900.  Wish I could have been there.

Regards,
Kam Yung
-- 
Soh Kam Yung
my Google Reader Shared links:
(http://www.google.com/reader/shared/16851815156817689753)
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From lugs.org.sg at tange.dk  Mon Mar 22 07:59:28 2010
From: lugs.org.sg at tange.dk (Ole Tange)
Date: Mon Mar 22 08:00:11 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Wimax for Linux
In-Reply-To: <291cdeab1003192236n1d45a033h903da76433979e92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce534faa1003190445y6a8ebd2buc05ed2ea4c051b60@mail.gmail.com> 
	<eeea2b6b1003190756j39bf7f8ch38b637539f82ec70@mail.gmail.com> 
	<291cdeab1003192236n1d45a033h903da76433979e92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ce534faa1003220059m12a4d9a4v8fc12cc54e5797e8@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Ray Rashif <schivmeister@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 19/03/2010, Harish Pillay <harish.pillay@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> One of my friends needs a wireless internet connection for his Linux
>>> laptop.
>
> Yes, there are at least 2 types of receivers - indoor and outdoor. I
> think the outdoor one emits 802.11 after receiving 802.16 (or might be
> configurable to be a repeater instead), while the indoor device will
> have eth port(s) and acts as a normal cable modem in that you can then
> use a router to distribute the line. There are also USB devices which
> are practically like WiFi adapters, but for 802.16 and need to be
> supported by operating system drivers.

It sounds as if the indoor device is going to cause the least number
of hours of support. Does anyone have that running with Linux? And
with what company? It seems Wireless@SG has fairly limited coverage in
residential areas, so that may not be usable option.


/Ole

From phengsiong at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 12:47:38 2010
From: phengsiong at gmail.com (Ng Pheng Siong)
Date: Mon Mar 22 12:48:24 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
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On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:03 PM, lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm quite happy with my N900,


How has the battery been for you?

My Android G1 needs one charge per day. I hear that the iPhone is about the
same.

Cheers.
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From lindqvust at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 04:14:06 2010
From: lindqvust at gmail.com (lindqvust)
Date: Tue Mar 23 04:14:53 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
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Ng Pheng Siong wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:03 PM, lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com 
> <mailto:lindqvust@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm quite happy with my N900, 
>
>
> How has the battery been for you?
>
> My Android G1 needs one charge per day. I hear that the iPhone is 
> about the same.
>
> Cheers.
I still do need to charge everyday. My N900 has lasted for about 26+ 
hours connected all day with some calls, messaging, games, and web 
browsing. I really waited for my phone to power-off by itself. =P

-- 
Regards,
-lindqvust

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From sohkamyung at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 05:06:34 2010
From: sohkamyung at gmail.com (Soh Kam Yung)
Date: Tue Mar 23 05:07:07 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
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On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:14 PM, lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com> wrote:
> I still do need to charge everyday. My N900 has lasted for about 26+ hours
> connected all day with some calls, messaging, games, and web browsing. I
> really waited for my phone to power-off by itself. =P
>
> --
> Regards,
> -lindqvust
>

And what screen/body protector are you using, if any, for the N900?

Regards
Kam Yung
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From lindqvust at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 06:10:03 2010
From: lindqvust at gmail.com (lindqvust)
Date: Tue Mar 23 06:10:49 2010
Subject: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile dataplan
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	<4BA1DE5F.6000807@gmail.com>	
	<3829471d1003220547t608f2b3fv69da0361ae54bb86@mail.gmail.com>	
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-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re: [Slugnet] Poll: who is getting the N900 and best mobile 
dataplan
From: Soh Kam Yung <sohkamyung@gmail.com>
To: lindqvust <lindqvust@gmail.com>
Cc: slugnet@lugs.org.sg
Date: Tuesday, 23 March, 2010 1:06:34 PM
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:14 PM, lindqvust<lindqvust@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> I still do need to charge everyday. My N900 has lasted for about 26+ hours
>> connected all day with some calls, messaging, games, and web browsing. I
>> really waited for my phone to power-off by itself. =P
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> -lindqvust
>>
>>      
> And what screen/body protector are you using, if any, for the N900?
>
> Regards
> Kam Yung
>    
I bought a book type leather case from PDair as seen here: 
[http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_1900000_11000787&products_id=26893 
<http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_1900000_11000787&products_id=26893>]

It took about a week for me to get it. There are some silicon and rubber 
protectors available as well from PDair.

-- 
Regards,
-lindqvust